Wednesday, October 14, 2009

The Enron Saga Continues....

Read the article and share your thoughts on the matter.
http://money.aol.com/article/skilling-appeal-heads-to-supreme-court/715362

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52 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think that the fair trial is a good idea. Everyone deserves to have a fair trial no matter what the situation is. Even if he is still convicted, no one will have an doubts afterwards. People have doubts now on whether or not he should be in jail and all of those concerns will be put to rest once the trial is over. I believe that the attorneys are just trying everything they can to win a case, but it will make sure everything that is happening is fair.
Kim Orton

Emily Spolarich said...

I feel that it is reasonable for Jeff Skilling to have a fair trail. Considering other people have had a problem with this law, "The law has been criticized as vague and unfair because the government need not prove, in some instances, that a defendant personally benefited from the alleged fraud." However, I don't believe that he should be let go with an easier sentence if he is still found guilty because of all of the people's jobs he single handedly destroyed "...shady business deals that led to the loss of thousands of jobs, more than $60 billion in Enron stock value and more than $2 billion in employee pension plans after the company imploded in 2001."

fredricks.amber said...

I think a 24 year prison term is being lenient with Skilling. Its not like he lied about a couple numbers on an audit. He completely let go of all his morality and caused a company to go under, that employed thousands of hardworking people to lose their jobs. Innocent people, who did nothing wrong, now have to face the reality of tring to find a new job, to support themselves/their family, all because of Skillings lack of morals. 24 years is not enough.

Maya said...

**Maya Franklin**

I think that justice should be served in the best way possible. If he is convicted for his crime he should be punished because he messed with peoples lives and their income. I feel there is sufficient evidence to prove that he is guilty and if he wants another trial he should get it.This way the lawyers can improve their case and make sure he gets a fair trial the second time around.

sirtrueman said...

As a citizen of the United States of America, I think Jeffrey Skilling (younger brother of Tom and EnronPresident) deserves a fair and just trial, regardless of whether or not he is guilty.

"The law has been criticized as vague and unfair because the government need not prove, in some instances, that a defendant personally benefited from the alleged fraud."

"Skilling also claims that he did not receive a fair trial in Houston following Enron's collapse".

If he didn't benefit from the trial, he deserves a less harsh punishment and for the collapse of Enron only.

Apparently he was also pronounced guilty before trial even started, which is just wrong and possibly against the Constitution.

sirtrueman said...

As a citizen of the United States of America, I think Jeffrey Skilling (younger brother of Tom and EnronPresident) deserves a fair and just trial, regardless of whether or not he is guilty.

"The law has been criticized as vague and unfair because the government need not prove, in some instances, that a defendant personally benefited from the alleged fraud."

"Skilling also claims that he did not receive a fair trial in Houston following Enron's collapse".

If he didn't benefit from the trial, he deserves a less harsh punishment and for the collapse of Enron only.

Apparently he was also pronounced guilty before trial even started, which is just wrong and possibly against the Constitution.

-Gregory Gomes period 5

Renita Williams said...

I believe that Skilling is full of crap and that he is just making excuses. He claims that the media found him guilty even before the trial, but the last time I checked, the media is not the judge or the jury. Not only is this claim irrelevant, but it is also one of consequences that one may be subject to once you are accused of commting a crime. For example, the media ran with O.J Simpson's trial but yet he was still found not guilty. So in short, the media has nothing to do with a fair trial.

Christopher! said...

A fair trail is always important. A lack of one is an envision of our rights as Americans."Skilling is the highest-ranking executive to be punished for the accounting tricks and shady business deals that led to the loss of thousands of jobs" but without substantial proof of personal gain from the fraud there are no grounds for such sever punishment.

doug said...

I didn't even know that Schiiling's court appearance was still being questioned. I thought that his situation was just a done deal after the collapse of his company years ago. it just goes to show that nothing in this country is set in stone and even when something seems completely decided, a high payed lawyer can work something out ot save their client. I understand both sides of the argument, if you would call it that. He did commit fraud and put several workers in a tough position to live by scamming them of their invested money. You can't mess with people's lives like that and then expect for it to all go away. But otheres might say that him losing everything was a good enoutgh punishment. So did all of the other employess and they didn't do anything wrong. It's not my place to decide this man's fate but I will say that his actions are not justified. That is up to a judge who'll have to think anout all the aspects and one who hopefully wasn't effected by this fraud; at least for Schilling's sake.

trixsJenkins13 said...

I agree on some terms with fredricks. Only because of Skilling's lack of morals. He cost many people their jobs. I know it sounds as if I'm repeating what the person above me is saying, but they took the words right of my mouth! however, i disagree about 24 years not being enough. I think maybe 12 years will be good, and maybe some community service would do him some good.
A fair trial should be granted, because I mean everyone deserves 2nd chances and most importantly, they deserve to plead their case. On the other hand, I don't think Skilling has anything or in other words a good enough reason on why he did the actions that he did. So my verdict would be 12 years and maybe 5 years of community service.

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Luke Hager said...

I don't think that a fair trial is a good idea. I believe this because even though he might of been accused of being guilty before trial, he was guilty of everything that he was convicted of. He should still go to jail for all the time given to him and he should not complain about it. He lied about everything that had to due with Enron and caused tons of people to lose almost everything they had. Skilling is a guilty man.

Olivia Gordon said...

Olivia
I think skilling already had a fair trial. One of the reasons they said in the article as to why it wasnt fair was that the media said he was guilty before the trial. The media in the long run doesnt even have anything to do with the trial they are not the people inside the court room. If there were better reasons to a new trial then i might agree to a new trial even though its Skilling and the things he did were rediculous.

miguel murillo said...

I believe that skilling shouldn't be given another chanse so quickly. He varely got convicted and becouse he was rich and important he is getting another chanse. That is not fair.

Some people that commited less severe crimes don't even get another opportunity. That is why I think Skilling shouldn't get that trial.

Justin said...

I think a fir trial is a very good idea. Since he was already pronounced guilty before the trial in Houston. Because of that we can't be sure because there was no trial. If there is a trial now then people will be able to know for sure if he is guilty or not.

Unknown said...

i agree and disagree with the idea of a fair trial. i agree because everybody needs a second chance to redeem themselves. During the first trial his actions were mostly based on what the media was saying, and he didn't really get a fair chance to defend himself. i disagree with this idea because he did cause several people to lose their jobs and suffer from debt. I wouldn't let Skilling get off completely with all the charges, but I would relax the penalties a little bit.

Lost in Thought said...

No. I believe that Skilling should not be let off the hook that easily. He knew what was going on and didnt stop it or do anything in that matter. The media is just a bunch of over hyped people, blowing things out of proportions.

Josh J. Wilks said...

I think that this fair trial is a bad idea. Skilling commited a serious crime and has been punished fairly for his crime. H e has only been in jail for three years and has already gotten an appeal to reach the supreme court. People with less severe crimes wait there entire life and not get an appeal to a disrtict court till about ten years. He did dirty deeds now he needs to stay in a dirty place. But even if he gets another trial, he'll probably get convicted again so its pretty pointless.

Kwai Pearson said...

Mr Skilling deserves a chance to be geard again especially if he feels he was treated unjustly. 3years after his conviction was too long in my opinion to to and re look at the case. If he was wrongly accused, he should sue them big time.

hailee said...

I think that throwing out another trial for Skilling is absolutely unnecessary. Even though he claims that he did not recieve a fair trial, there are already enough evidence shows that he is guilty (the accounting tricks and shady business deals). Plus, having two other cases on their schedule dealing with the honest services law does not mean that Skilling's case would be another prove of it being unjust. The truth is that Skilling convited conspiracy, securities fraud, insider trading, and lying to auditors. It's his greed that leads thousands of people lost their jobs, pension plans, and even life savings. Obviously, Skilling is just trying to make up excuses and play the game unfairly. However, I believe people are responsible to whatever they did and they must undertake the consequences. Therefore, Skilling definitely deserves his twenty four years of prison and does not deserve another trial!

Unknown said...

I think Jeff Skilling has the right to a fair trial no matter if everyone thinks he's guilty. He's innocent until proven guilty. In addition, I think the "honest services law" is unfair because it doesn't require that the government have proof that the defendant had a personal benefit from the fraud. Therefore, Skilling may or may not be guilty.

Courtney Barrios said...

I believe that giving Skilling a full and fair trial is a good idea. Our governement states that everyone deserves a fair trial to be faced with the crimes that they were accused of. However, i believe that there will be the same outcome. That he will still be quilty. The trial will just satisfy everyone's curiosity and complaints of not getting the trial in which Skilling believed he should have had.

Anthony J. said...

I feel Jeff Skilling deserves a fair trial. Even if he is wrong or right he should be given a fair chance because if this was you, you want a chance to win your case. If he is found guilty i think he should get the sentence they want to give to him and he should not be let go with an easier sentence. He ruined many lives by them losing their jobs. He should still have a fair chance so everyone can hear his side of the story.

campbell.robert83 said...

I believe the trial was unfair. From what the article said, They seemed as though they didnt have enough evidence to prove skilling was guilty. He has received a 24 year prison term, and his appela to the supreme court would result in a new trial. whiuch would jsutify the case fairly. If it was not already done to begin with. It is possible that the attorneys are only trying to win the case just for the money, however, a fair trial is just as important.

Victoria Butler said...

Victoria

Isn't it the law to have a fair trial? If they didn't give a full and fair trial he could probably find somebody to complain about it and cause a big seen. I think if they are so sure that he is guilty that they should just let him have the second trial.

giannapearson said...

I believe that every one deserves a fair trial. However I lack sympathy for Jeff Skilling. He caused "....the loss of thousands of jobs, more than $60 billion in Enron stock value and more than $2 billion in employee pension plans..." Its obvious that the attorneys could care less about the well-being of Jeff Skiling. They just want to win their case to build up their career. Although he deserves a fair trial I dont think the previous charges and convictions against him should be forgotten. The judge, jurors, and attorneys should keep this in mind, so that they can formulate an idea to prevent this from happening in the future.The economy would not be able to withstand another financial loss like the one Jeff Skilling caused.
Gianna Pearson 6th period

alyssacjma13 said...

Skilling is one of the catalysts of the Enron scandal and he has apparently commited a number of crimes, but he is still a citizen of the United States. I feel he deserves to be in prison, but he also has the right to an appeal, as does every cold blooded criminal. There are people that have commited worse crimes that have gotten off easier than him and that's no reason to go easy on him, but there is a justice system in America for a reason, and not to use it would be unconstitutional.

bonnie_faye said...

DELILAH

I think that the trial for Skilling is fair. He cheated and lied his way into wealth which ultimately hurt numerous businesses like the dominoe effect. Also Skilling should be held accountable for his actions. He claims that he didn't have a fair trial in Houston. He also claims that his fate was already decided for him. However, it is inevitable for people to be unbiased about the trial, when it's clear that skilling had no sympathy for others or any business ethics.

jmccann said...

I believe that Enron Chief Executive Officer Jeff Skilling has the right to ask for another trial if he feels his previous trial wasn't fair. No matter how guilty someone seems I believe that, if not only to show the honesty of the court, they have the right to ask for a second trial.
Even if he's proven guilty again, it would be an affirmation of the case and he would've gotten what he'd asked for. It is, afterall, his life that's going to be drastically changed. he should at least get another trial if only to ease his and others minds.

Anonymous said...

Everyone has the right to a fair trial, but I believe that skilling got his chance. The media had nothing to do with the actual decision of the courts, the law did.

LADY C said...

I believe Jeff should be given the same freedom as the rest of the worl. One of the ammendments is the right to liberty anf justice, to not give him a trial just isn't right. He is still a person, and still should be treated as a member of society. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? The U.S judicial system is screwed up.....Jeff should be given a fair trial.

Lamar G. said...

It's fine that Skilling is going to get a fair trial, but the crime he committed was serious. Thus, his sentence shouldn't be any less than he deservess.

Rhea said...

Skilling received a 24 year prison term, which I think he lucked out. He lied hardcore, to the point where people lost all there earnings that they have been working for their whole life. Because of his actions he caused a company to go under, that employed thousands of hardworking people. Now people have to start ALL over, and face reality in much more difficult way. The unemployed now have to find jobs to support themselves/their family, all because of Skilling. In my opinion, 24 years is just not enough. He should be punished with life term, because he caused people to lose everything they have worked for their whole life, and they just got dumped out in the cold. And it’s not like Skilling was doing it unintentionally; he knew what he was doing from the begin

Diana Brokop said...

I believe that Skilling deserves a fair trial but I still think that he deserves to be in jail. He can do redo the trial in a fair manner and tell his side of the story but I think it is pretty clear that he did commit all the crimes that he is accused of. He was responsible for the well being of many people and he put himself first before all others. That deserves punishment and he must suffer the consequences. So even if he does redo the trial I hope he is given the approriate punishment for the things he has done.

tianarobinson87 said...

-Tiana Robinson
-I feel like a 24 year prison term is fair. This was a huge company that failed & he also has fraud. It wasn't just a couple of billion dollars lost it was "more than $60 billion in Enron stock value and more than $2 billion in employee pension plans after the company imploded in 2001." That is alot of money.
-On the other hand i feel that the fair trial is a good idea. alot of people do it, but he was just one of few to get caught. Its always good to give somebody a second chance, and come on now, that was almost a decade now. Whats done is done & can't be undone!

Kiana said...

i think Skilling already had a fair trail, i dont think the media had anything to do with the jury's verdict. He did the crime so he has to do the time, he messed up a lot of people's lives, and now it comes back on him and he wants sympathy. I disagree with him on that note...then he tries to argue about with the federal "services fraud" law, it may be wrong it may not be, i still dont think that'll change the outcome of his sentence. it also wont change the fact that he will have a record. so it is pointless to bring this up, his trail was fair enough.

Kiana said...

Kiana Johnson
i think Skilling already had a fair trail, i dont think the media had anything to do with the jury's verdict. He did the crime so he has to do the time, he messed up a lot of people's lives, and now it comes back on him and he wants sympathy. I disagree with him on that note...then he tries to argue about with the federal "services fraud" law, it may be wrong it may not be, i still dont think that'll change the outcome of his sentence. it also wont change the fact that he will have a record. so it is pointless to bring this up, his trail was fair enough.

Julie said...

I believe that Skilling should be allowed to appeal his case and be allowed a fair trial. Every person has a right to a fair trial and although I believe Skilling should keep his 24 year sentence, he should be allowed to appeal his case. I do not agree with the statement about the media, because the media should not be influencing court decisions. The media may influence the general public but those are the consequences he must suffer for his actions.

whskeks000 said...

I think this is a really good idea. He should have a trial at the Supreme Court soon so that his jail sentence can be extended. People like him who have money try to wriggle their way out of situation like this. This time, the Supreme Court should show act as an example and extend his jail sentence. Also, I can't believe that Skilling cried for this when he's responsible for hundreds of people who cried for losing their jobs.

Dan Hermle said...

Although I believe Skilling deserves a fair trial, I do not believe there is anything he can say that will get him acquitted. The facts and evidence shows that he is a guilty man and there's nothing he can do now but to apologize and plead guilty. I do not think that Jeffrey Skilling should be able to appeal to his sentencing.

Anonymous said...

Tiffani-
I think that a conducting a fair trial for Skilling is a good idea. This is not to say that I am changing my views on what he has done. But the first trial that he had seemed to be ingested with press, and the whole scandal was fresh. A lot of the times people's decisions are altered by the environment. Some biased feelings may have been present in the courtroom.
Now, years later, after people have calmed down and are more likely to make sound decisions is the best time to conduct a second trial. Skilling is wrong for lying and ruining people's lives, but in favor of justice, a fair trial is only right.

Ian Engels said...

I believe that Skilling deserves a fair trial just as much as any other person. His trial, even if his sentence stays the same, will close any ideas that he should be free or have a harsher sentence. "Skilling is the highest-ranking executive to be punished for the accounting tricks and shady business deals that led to the loss of thousands of jobs, more than $60 billion in Enron stock value and more than $2 billion in employee pension plans after the company imploded in 2001."

Asiiaaa said...

I do not fully agree and I do not fully disagree. Everyone should have the right to explain themselves if they believe they were wrongfully accused. He says he didn’t get a chance to defend himself at the trial and that the jury was biased because the media changed people’s opinions. On the other hand he did deprive people of their jobs and made them be in major debt. The charges should definitely not get dropped but maybe he should get a second trial to assure that there are no doubts as to whether or not he is guilty.
-Joanna Czauz Per.6

alex peace said...

I believe that a fair trail is in order in any case weather or not there is substantial evidence towards him doing it or not, this country's court system was not created with all these rules and precautions for nothing. It said in the article that Mr. Skilling was also proclaimed guilty before his trail which is highly unconstitutional no matter what the circumstances.

Giovanni D. said...

I do think that the fair trial is a good idea. Everybody, no matter how horrible the crime was, must have a fair trial. Even if he still gets convicted for his crimes, people won't have any doubts after this whole scandal had gone by. To see if the 24-year prison term was fair or not, they must first have a fair trial. Many people still say that he should go to jail for his actions that he did and for his involvement with ENRON.

Bryan said...

I think that Jeff already had his trial and doesn't deserve to get another one. He caused one of the biggest energy plant to collapse which also caused many people to go unemployed. Even his lawyer thinks he is guilty. Even if he gets another fair trial, he's probably going to be pronounced guilty again. Skillings is just making many excuses so that he doesn't have to serve the 24 years in prison which is already little for all the things he has committed.

Anonymous said...

I think that having a fair trial is a good idea. Everyone deserves a fair trial, and this way nobody will have doubts on his horrible actions. I believe that he should finish serving his 24yr prison term because of the fact that he lied and almost caused people to lose everything they had.

D'yona said...

I feel that he should have a fair trial. Justice is justice and it should be served to the fullest. Even though I don't feel bad for him because he gets what he deserves. It's his fault that many people lost their jobs so he should take some responsibility.

Ynabon said...

Everyone deserves a fair trial, so yes, I do believe he should get to appeal his case. At the same time though, he shouldn't be let off the hook with a shorter sentence. The guy is going to serve his time whether he gets his appeal or not, so I don't see why it's a huge deal.

Anonymous said...

This situation is almost becoming comical in a sense. Its turning into some sort of movie, or something of that source. Obviously, its understandable from Skilling's perspective to want another trial. Anything that allows him out of prison and allows him to be able to put his case in front of a judge again is something he is in favor of. Personally, I feel that the man should serve his time. It is apparent that he was involved in the downfall of the company and he should stop making excuses and behave like a man. However, this is sure not to happen that simply. Politics and Law just don't work that way

Anonymous said...

I think that the 24 year prison sentence is fair because Jeff Skilling, with associates, cheated a large number of investors out of their money. for some of the investors it will take more than 24 years to get their life back together. Skilling deserves every year in that sentence.

Lyndon said...

A fair trial should be true for all people regardless of the crime. It does bring about a sort of proof of what Skilling did and also gives him a chance to plead his case. No doubts will be had by anybody because all things will be brought to the table about all problems that may have gone on during his term as the head of the company.